4. Hi guys, I just started having an issue with my new coach gun and could use help. . great review. An attractive trigger guard gives the Coach Gun and Coach Gun Supreme a more refined appearance, with smooth curves that complement the triggers. There it was: a stock and action section, forearm piece, and the barrels. Easy? When the forward grip is fitted onto the barrels they actually protrude into the rear portion of the grip. The 1873 Colt clones are better made, but even they benefit from a tuning, since the action is essentially the same as in Colts black powder pistols. That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. The only problem is the splinter fore-end means I need to wear a glove to keep from burning my left hand. He just replaced it this year as its starting to unlock on firing and yes it could be repaired however the gun has provided him 23 years of rough service,its shall we say rode hard and put away wet. Browse the large selection of Coach Gun products offered by Numrich Gun Parts. 5. I can put a slug in the left barrel, and a charge of number 6 shot in the right barrel, ready for any large or small game that might cross my path. by mergus Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:00 pm, Post "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. by Panzercat Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:31 pm, Post Although I really liked how the, Model: Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under. NB I said shotgun gunsmith, because lots of rifle/pistol gunsmiths wont know how to properly measure the barrel wall thickness, nor will they have the proper reamers for lengthening the forcing cones (theyre spendy little buggers like $100 + shipping). If you watch the Video of the Instruction Manuel, at the very end, Once I figured out the pattern, I could easily put a slug from the right barrel into the same group made by the left barrel by merely sighting down the top of the right barrel, instead of using the brass bead in the middle. He informed me that the Coach Guns right barrel is an improved cylinder choke, with the left a modified choke. Akheloce Registered Joined Dec 24, 2012 I use it for CAS. by barbarossa Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:17 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. Although nothing to rave about, the Sightmark Ultra Shot reflex sight will get the job done. It was stiff, but loosened up the more it was shot. Available in different gauges such as .410 bore, 12-gauge, or 20-gauge, this shotgun can be in matte nickel, polished nickel-plated, or blue finish. by Buck Elliott Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:08 pm, Post I HAVE ALL 3 OF THE SHOTGUNS YOU DESCRIBE. In contrast to all my collection of pistol-gripped shotguns, the Stoeger Silverado features a straight, English-style stock. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a73fba975c4e1294af929a4bc20a5919" );document.getElementById("b41c6d486d").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. The other 2 have their own problems. But even after picking the Supreme model, I still had to make a few more decisions. The term coach gun is a generic description for a side-by-side shotgun with an 18-20 inch barrel. I have taken it to a local gunsmith three times, sent it back to Stoeger, who refuses to look at it because the safety was reversed. I broke out my Do-All trap machine, and got a box of clay targets. It has auto rebounding hammers with interrupting sears. Its a fun little no frills gun that really packs a bang behind it. Nice review, but one question left unanswered for me: how is the extraction/reloading? Price: $479. Nowadays, Stoeger manufactures their Coach guns in .410, 12, and 20 gauges, in a variety of finishes, all with 20 barrels. The Coach Gun itself isn't known for this problem, though I know it has occurred with the double trigger Uplander SXS series. Click to expand. If this is over done it can mess up the head space and you could see the same type of problem. Gonna get one. So I started looking at whether a coach gun would be a better option. due to their break open simplicity and manual of arms they likewise would be ideal Colt pistols, Marlin rifles and old SxS's.. Hammer-spur checkering on my TTN is flat-topped, providing just the right purchase for cocking, without tearing up anything (me included). A go-anywhere-where-its-legal 12-gauge shotgun. We discuss most anything here politely. Whats a tactical shotgun without accessories? I was not able to actually cut the spring with any of my tools, so I had to grind off segments of the coil. I own several of them. Gonna part company with my old Winchester 101s & L.C. Stoeger Coach Guns single and double trigger shotguns are based on the Old West stagecoach guards shotgun of choice. toddcarnes Participant Milan IL Posts: 804 September 6, 2007 at 3:25 am #606030 Weight (unloaded):6.5 pounds Heavy, but in a short barrelled coach gun that's not entirely a BAD thing. Im short so I always need to adjust LOP anyway. Caliber: .12 gauge As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, Beretta Holding S.p.A, Stoeger Industries gets overshadowed by the more established gunmakers Beretta, Benelli, and Franchi. Youre right, the finish on the stock is almost a thing of beauty, and those nickel barrels/action contrast quite nicely with the dark walnut. Ive NEVER had trouble with the pump, and Ive been using it for close to 40 years. The Stoeger Coach gun is a side-by-side shotgun, chambered for both shells with 2-3/4" and 3" measurement. What types of problems would not be covered under warranty? Fast? The contemporary (not 19th century original antiques with Damascus or twist barrels) I know, I know: most side-by-sides break down the same way. Here is an excerpt from the Beretta Wikipedia page: The parent company, Beretta Holding, also owns Beretta USA, Benelli, Franchi, SAKO, Stoeger, Tikka, Uberti, and the Burris Optics company.. Sheila dont know or care about choke or an English stock , external hammers vs. internal hammers but I do . Your Life Can Change in 16 Seconds. They weren't short barreled coach guns both were 28" barreled bird guns which were a tad heavy but built like a T-34 tank. Ak, o ka poe hilinai aku i Ihova, e ulu hou n ko lkou ikaika; There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! Knowing that many of the faster shooters were using the 1897, I decided that was my first choice. double-barrel stagecoach shotgun with 20 barrels in 12 or 20 gauge remain highly If you bought it new I would talk to Stoeger, though with COVID they may have shutdown their service department. Good gun for the money considering you could spend double or triple on a side by side shotgun. Owner's Manual. Other specs are more or less the same. Is there a diagram or instructions for changing firing pins, I have waisted enough money, http://www.longhunt.com/gunparts/stoeger.htm. A good value that has a lot more going for it than you might think by just looking at it. I thank you, because I learned new stuff today. Some owners reported patterns that differed as much as three feet between the barrels. Price point is about $80-$100 less, so one can be had easily for $350-$400 bucks. The struggles with the gun were many. I have a Stoeger Coach gun but not a Supreme. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/stoeger2.html. More specifically, coach guns were ubiquitous in the Wild West, especially for defending stagecoaches, which is why sitting in the passenger seat became known as, A lot of people think the Coach Gun is a niche firearm, but in truth, its actually a quite versatile shotgun. Recover the sight, realign on the target or the next target, and fire the shotgun using the second barrel. Fun stuff. There are a couple of additional items worth noting. USSG has some decent coach style SxS shotties. The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. by Mescalero Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:03 pm, Post The folks in the Russian AK factory know how to build a side by side! by Pitchy Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:24 am, Post Thats way the duel trigger are better, they require less tuning and are easy for the local gunsmith to adjust or repair. How can I find a Stoeger Industries dealer? Even just out of the box it is do-able. I thought I had the Coach Gun nailed for a major weakness, as the two barrels were not exactly, totally, 100-percent regulated to the same pinpoint of aim. And yes, it does kill pigeons like nobodys business! Barrel length: 20" Overall length: 36.5" Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. Problems with my Stoeger 12ga Coach Gun Supreme June 2012 after 2 visits back to the manufacturer Battle of the Coach Guns - TheFirearmGuy TheFireArmGuy 67K views 1 year ago Stoeger. #1. I also shortened the trigger sear-blades, and pinned the triggers in proper position, and reshaped the pregnant-looking trigger guard. by Mescalero Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:51 am, Post The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. If you can afford it ($600), you cant go wrong with the legendary Leupold and their DeltaPoint Pro red dot reflex sight. It doesn't hurt one to be left cocked for years on end or it doesn't take long to drop in a couple of rounds. by Ji in Hawaii Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:49 pm, Post My dad was better with the SxS than I was, he could actually break some clays. Also have a CZ hammer 12 gauge double. It was very tight. No problems. And you need a backup. I own several of them. While I still need to do a little more grinding on the chamber mouths and polishing of the mating surfaces, Im happy with my efforts to stick my toe into the gunsmithing realm, although that term is probably too generous for my fine tuning. They also tell you to insure the gun. Model: COACH GUN. It handles and points wonderfully. I just have the plain-jane modelstock is standard, not English, and it isnt finished quite as nicely. But I was still taken by the bonzai tree of it all. Where and how do I send my gun for warranty repair service? Go to an auto parts store and get a brake cylinder hone for the Chambers and some valve grinding compound for the mating surfaces. This creates a funnel effect that makes it easier to insert the shotshells. You will need to measure the barrel wall thickness ahead and behind the forcing cones, then, if you have sufficient barrel wall thickness (which Im not going to specify, because I know not the quality of the steel in Stoeger gun barrels), you would order a forcing cone reamer from Dave Manson and ream the cones to a more gradual profile. While the short barrel was tough to follow through with on fast crossers, it actually swung better at. They are not cheap locally, so I bought a shotshell reloader and started loading my own light loads. Not sure Blaine, just checked and the only thing they list now are single shots. The inner workings are less than primitive. Is the Rossi Overland a Stoeger? The easiest way is to grip the butt stock as if ready to shoot and position the shotgun receiver so that you can press the hinged parts (making sure that they are positioned in their forward orientation) against a board or bench. Single trigger SxSs take a lot of tuning to get just right. I did check out the Silverado when I bought mine, and the fit and finish are pretty sweet. I don't know about Biden, but my (plain, non-tactical) Stoeger coach gun has been rock-solid and I have no complaints. Available in different gauges such as .410 bore, 12-gauge, or 20-gauge, this shotgun can be in matte nickel, polished nickel-plated, or blue finish. by Buck Elliott Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:06 pm, Post It's little . steel receiver. Plus, keep in mind that the safety is automatically engaged upon opening the Coachs action. To get side-by-side guns, shotguns or rifles regulated to shoot to exactly the same point of aim requires a lot of tedious hand-fitting and workwhich is why double-barrel guns that perform that way usually cost more than my pickup truck. Especially for a person who is trained, familiar, and competent with such. Older guns were made this way. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. I shoot cowboy action. Theres a great deal to learn about Stoegers premier side by side but before we get the ball rolling on the Gunivore review of Stoeger Industries Coach Gun, check out our rundown on the past, present, and future of the entire up-and-coming, Finish: Black-Finished Hardwood, Polished Nickel, Due to its alliance with the Beretta Holding Group, you can bet your bottom dollar that Stoeger did not cut corners when it comes to their components quality. Simultaneously, this affiliation has enabled Stoeger to thrive by providing them with state-of-the-art technology, better business management, and improved techniques. The ability to change the chokes was the main reason I went with the Supreme model. But it was well worth it. So, back to the field with maximum firepower. Quality steel receiver & barrel. An attractive trigger guard complements the double trigger. http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/shotgu 8cg26.html, http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/shotgu 878cg.html, It is currently Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:29 pm. While there are still companies that manufactured 1897 clones, I read conflicting information about the quality of the clones and I didnt want to buy one for competition that would be older than I am. Now, as to one other mod you could make, but which requires a significant expenditure on tooling: you could lengthen the forcing cones, which will change the recoil impulse a bit. 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